On Campus, Uncategorized - by Karina Grudnikov on Friday, February 6, 2009 13:45 - 3 Comments - 35 views

NYU Undergrads Diagnose Mental Disorders

shatkin_001Regardless of how often our “#1 Dream School” prompts us to whine, one thing that NYU deserves props for is having extremely cool classes, like the one I’m taking now, “Child and Adolescent Psychopathology.”

The introductory course of the Child and Adolescent Mental Health minor, “Child and Adolescent Psychopathology” deals with mental disorders in children and adolescents, teaching students everything from disease etiology to epidemiology and diagnosis. What that means in human words is that students learn about the causes of mental disorders, factors that influence them, ways to identify and diagnose them and everything in between. Learning disorders, mental retardation, eating disorders… you name it and it’s probably covered in this class.

Besides the fact that the subject matter is really fascinating, there are lots of added bonuses. For one, the class is taught by Dr. Jess Shatkin (pictured), not just a professor but a renowned child psychiatrist, as well as the Director of Education and Training at the center. Rarely do undergraduate college students get the chance to study with professionals that are really important in their field, let alone one like Dr. Shatkin (or Jess, as he lets us call him even though no one has the guts to), who is a really approachable guy.

Definitely cooler than smart, famous doctors who go by Jess is that students are required to sit in on a psychiatric evaluation between a patient and a doctor, and then write up an evaluation of their own. According to Dr. Shatkin, most students agree that this is their favorite part of the class, and it’s easy to see why. “Being able to observe a child and family suffering from mental illness puts faces, emotions, real people and real struggles to the often dry discourse found in psychopathology text books,” he says.

Surprised that inexperienced undergraduates are given such a privilege, I ask Dr. Shatkin why he’s built it into his curriculum. He explains that the sit-in gives students a chance to really imagine what their future in the field could be. “They get to see the clinician in action and, in their minds, play with the idea of sitting in that seat, taking on that role.” Shatkin acknowledged that undergrads rarely have much exposure to clinical settings but, “since we have all the resources of the NYU Child Study Center at our fingertips, we feel it’s important, and almost our duty, to share this opportunity with them,” he said.

For students as fascinated with psychopathology as I am, the fun’s not over when the class ends. The Child and Adolescent Mental Health minor offers plenty of other awesome classes, including new ones which are being added every semester. CAMS, as the program is called, began in the fall of 2006, partially as a response to the rash of NYU suicides of 2003-2004 and the attention they brought to juvenile mental health. While Dr. Shatkin says that “CAMS really is a separate issue,” he admits that the program was started during that time “because mental health was pushed to the forefront of the school’s agenda…it made terrific sense to develop an academic program of study so that students could learn about how these sorts of things, amongst many others, happen in the first place.”

The semester hasn’t even reached the halfway point… but I’ve already decided to add this as a minor.

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Jordan Maki
Feb 7, 2009 2:20

haha i’m in this class with you. and yes, i agree jess totally rocks.

mike crowley
Feb 8, 2009 21:26

I wonder what this professor’ views are on the cultural context of pathology. What is pathology anyways? Obviously people have problems, and they seek help for those problems. Obviously something needs to be done in situations where kids seem to be having violent mood swings or showing what’s considered symptoms of things like OCD, Bipolar disorder, major depressive disorder or eating disorders. But I think it’s not so clear cut, the line between people who are mentally ill and the people who are mentally healthy. I have a friend who is considered to have ADD pretty bad, and she is one of the most goal-oriented and productive persons i know. She has trouble getting things done on the schedule that her school’s system structures for her, but she’s constantly working on things she’s interested in, and occasionally puts a ton of effort into doing something that most of us would only do a certain amount of work on, and then move on for the sake of doing all of what is expected of us. Does she have a mental illness, or just a different style of learning and focusing that doesn’t fit with the our educational norms?

What is considered pathological, abnormal, has always been wrapped up with culture and politics, and child psychopathology is no different. How much is the fit between individual children and the society/political structure/culture that they are born into talked about in this class? When we have two to four year olds being given anti-psychotics, anxiolytics, and anti-depressants(check the frontline documentary on child medication), how much are we letting kids develop before we try to sculpt their personalities to fit with what works for the parents and the institutions that these kids are expected navigate? What risks are we taking trying to regulate brain chemistry and development at a very young age? All questions I’d hope get talked about in this class.

The fact that in this class students get exposure to the clinical setting is also interesting, since students get to see real people, with all of their uniqueness and complexity, and hopefully they’ll see that none of us humans fit perfectly into the diagnoses in the DSM. And does that part of the educational experience encourage students to think in a more black and white way, or a more nuanced and fluid way, about the distinction between the mentally ill and the mentally healthy? I’d like to see Karina write a follow up piece on how students interpreted that aspect of the class, how it contributed to their understanding of pathology and psychiatry.

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