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	<title>Comments on: NYU Professor: Put Away Your Laptops Or &#8220;Go Enroll In The University Of Phoenix&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Laura Adkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Adkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Omar Parker MBA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omar Parker MBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think this article is bias towards online education?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think this article is bias towards online education?</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Klitzke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Klitzke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who argue that &quot;the professor is right, I am more distracted when I have a device in front of me&quot;. When and how do you think this is going to change?  Do you think those distractions wont be there in the work place?  Trust me, they are here.  

Learn to deal with those distractions now.  Use your device for productivity, not as a modern version of doodling and you&#039;ll be more successful in life.

Why do some professors hate technology?  Simple, it provides you with the opportunity to find a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips.  Knowledge use to be sacred and rare.  They controlled that knowledge and now they feel like it is slipping through their fingers....no one likes to lose control.

Lastly, explain to me how you can claim you are preparing the leaders of tomorrow by only allowing them to use the tools of the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who argue that &#8220;the professor is right, I am more distracted when I have a device in front of me&#8221;. When and how do you think this is going to change?  Do you think those distractions wont be there in the work place?  Trust me, they are here.  </p>
<p>Learn to deal with those distractions now.  Use your device for productivity, not as a modern version of doodling and you&#8217;ll be more successful in life.</p>
<p>Why do some professors hate technology?  Simple, it provides you with the opportunity to find a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips.  Knowledge use to be sacred and rare.  They controlled that knowledge and now they feel like it is slipping through their fingers&#8230;.no one likes to lose control.</p>
<p>Lastly, explain to me how you can claim you are preparing the leaders of tomorrow by only allowing them to use the tools of the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn Ortiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn Ortiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a schoolteacher (5th grade), so I&#039;m not in the position of dealing with students &quot;taking notes&quot; on their laptops. However, I have ADHD, and when I&#039;m in a meeting, it&#039;s a HUGE struggle for me to stay focused if I have my laptop in front of me -- even if I&#039;m taking notes on the information presented. However, I would resent having to take notes on paper and then copy them into my GoogleDrive or other WP program. What would&#039;ve worked best for me as a college student is the same idea Trisha mentioned -- accountability from a watchful authority figure. If I sit next to my principal at a meeting, I don&#039;t &quot;surf the Web&quot;. I just sit and take notes on my laptop. Perhaps the NYU professors need to rethink the policy and enact a &quot;random monitoring&quot; one. Very often, public embarrassment is better motivator than an unreasonable rule. 

And... just so the college kids know... professors have been lecturing for millenia. Get over the &quot;I&#039;m bored&quot; rant. Learn to concentrate and glean what you can from these people who know their subject far better than you do. You&#039;re not paying them to entertain you. You&#039;re paying the university for an EDUCATION. If you&#039;d rather be entertained while educated, go home and watch Sesame Street and Magic School Bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a schoolteacher (5th grade), so I&#8217;m not in the position of dealing with students &#8220;taking notes&#8221; on their laptops. However, I have ADHD, and when I&#8217;m in a meeting, it&#8217;s a HUGE struggle for me to stay focused if I have my laptop in front of me &#8212; even if I&#8217;m taking notes on the information presented. However, I would resent having to take notes on paper and then copy them into my GoogleDrive or other WP program. What would&#8217;ve worked best for me as a college student is the same idea Trisha mentioned &#8212; accountability from a watchful authority figure. If I sit next to my principal at a meeting, I don&#8217;t &#8220;surf the Web&#8221;. I just sit and take notes on my laptop. Perhaps the NYU professors need to rethink the policy and enact a &#8220;random monitoring&#8221; one. Very often, public embarrassment is better motivator than an unreasonable rule. </p>
<p>And&#8230; just so the college kids know&#8230; professors have been lecturing for millenia. Get over the &#8220;I&#8217;m bored&#8221; rant. Learn to concentrate and glean what you can from these people who know their subject far better than you do. You&#8217;re not paying them to entertain you. You&#8217;re paying the university for an EDUCATION. If you&#8217;d rather be entertained while educated, go home and watch Sesame Street and Magic School Bus.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Corson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine Corson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy Note tablet and it&#039;s honestly the best of both worlds. I&#039;m in Stern so everything is based in slide decks. I can import the decks into the SNote app and write on the deck - and it can even turn handwriting to text (and yes my handwriting is awful) and correct shapes for diagrams. Then I can save everything in folders amd carry it around. I don&#039;t get the screen barrier of a laptop and ideally I would go paperless and neat in all classes. I think if products likd this existed where it&#039;s clear that you&#039;re taking notes but on a digital screen and not paper, professors might feel more  comfortable allowing the technology in the classroom. I feel like with that type of product it would be more obvious if you&#039;re browsing the Internet since you&#039;re looking down and clicking, and since I want a professor to think I&#039;m paying attention I would be less tempted to surf the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy Note tablet and it&#8217;s honestly the best of both worlds. I&#8217;m in Stern so everything is based in slide decks. I can import the decks into the SNote app and write on the deck &#8211; and it can even turn handwriting to text (and yes my handwriting is awful) and correct shapes for diagrams. Then I can save everything in folders amd carry it around. I don&#8217;t get the screen barrier of a laptop and ideally I would go paperless and neat in all classes. I think if products likd this existed where it&#8217;s clear that you&#8217;re taking notes but on a digital screen and not paper, professors might feel more  comfortable allowing the technology in the classroom. I feel like with that type of product it would be more obvious if you&#8217;re browsing the Internet since you&#8217;re looking down and clicking, and since I want a professor to think I&#8217;m paying attention I would be less tempted to surf the web.</p>
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		<title>By: Trisha Sales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trisha Sales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a professor that used these same reasons to try to get students to not use a laptop in class. He didn&#039;t ban them, but just made it a suggestion. After I heard his arguments, I actually gave the notebook and pen thing a try out of respect for the professor. It lasted two classses. I found his arguments did not apply to me and that his way actually impeded my ability to learn. 

As for the physical barrier argument, isn&#039;t the desk also a physical barrier. Yet, people have learned while sitting behind desks for a very long time. Regardless, I have never felt a need for a physical connection to a professor to learn. I felt no difference in &quot;barriers&quot; when I didn&#039;t have my laptop. 

He also used the transcription argument, which may be true for some, but not for me. My hand-written notes are horrible compared to my typed notes. My typed notes are much more organized. In addition, when I need to look back into my notes for something, I can find what I&#039;m looking for much quicker with the &quot;find&quot; function on my laptop. I&#039;m simply better organized and spend my time more efficiently when studying for an exam when I use my laptop to take notes. But most importantly, I can continue to watch the instructor while I&#039;m taking notes on my laptop. I don&#039;t need to look at what I&#039;m writing. With notebook and pen I was constantly looking down at my paper. I can&#039;t write with a pen legibly without looking at the paper. I am more engaged when I am able to take notes on my laptop. 

I really think it all comes down to professors being worried about the third argument, that students will be wasting time on Facebook or some other such website. This is the only argument that I think is really valid. It is about respecting the professor and the effort he/she has put into the lesson. My school has a pretty simple policy on this. The Dean or faculty members randomly walk into the back of classrooms or look through the windows to see if students are using their laptops for something other than education. If they see a Facebook screen or other non-related website, you will be asked to pack up and leave class. That only had to happen a couple of times before students decided the embarrasment of being called out in front of the entire class and asked to leave was not worth browsing the web. I&#039;m in my third year of law school and it only happend a couple of times my first year. 

Students all have different study habits and learn in different ways. Students should have options that best suit them, but it is reasonable to have repercussions for those students that aren&#039;t respecting the professor&#039;s time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a professor that used these same reasons to try to get students to not use a laptop in class. He didn&#8217;t ban them, but just made it a suggestion. After I heard his arguments, I actually gave the notebook and pen thing a try out of respect for the professor. It lasted two classses. I found his arguments did not apply to me and that his way actually impeded my ability to learn. </p>
<p>As for the physical barrier argument, isn&#8217;t the desk also a physical barrier. Yet, people have learned while sitting behind desks for a very long time. Regardless, I have never felt a need for a physical connection to a professor to learn. I felt no difference in &#8220;barriers&#8221; when I didn&#8217;t have my laptop. </p>
<p>He also used the transcription argument, which may be true for some, but not for me. My hand-written notes are horrible compared to my typed notes. My typed notes are much more organized. In addition, when I need to look back into my notes for something, I can find what I&#8217;m looking for much quicker with the &#8220;find&#8221; function on my laptop. I&#8217;m simply better organized and spend my time more efficiently when studying for an exam when I use my laptop to take notes. But most importantly, I can continue to watch the instructor while I&#8217;m taking notes on my laptop. I don&#8217;t need to look at what I&#8217;m writing. With notebook and pen I was constantly looking down at my paper. I can&#8217;t write with a pen legibly without looking at the paper. I am more engaged when I am able to take notes on my laptop. </p>
<p>I really think it all comes down to professors being worried about the third argument, that students will be wasting time on Facebook or some other such website. This is the only argument that I think is really valid. It is about respecting the professor and the effort he/she has put into the lesson. My school has a pretty simple policy on this. The Dean or faculty members randomly walk into the back of classrooms or look through the windows to see if students are using their laptops for something other than education. If they see a Facebook screen or other non-related website, you will be asked to pack up and leave class. That only had to happen a couple of times before students decided the embarrasment of being called out in front of the entire class and asked to leave was not worth browsing the web. I&#8217;m in my third year of law school and it only happend a couple of times my first year. </p>
<p>Students all have different study habits and learn in different ways. Students should have options that best suit them, but it is reasonable to have repercussions for those students that aren&#8217;t respecting the professor&#8217;s time.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Olshevski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Olshevski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 06:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I saw this headline I thought (and hoped) it was going to advocate disallowing laptops in class. And in a weird way it kind of is:

&quot;We are surrounded by technology every day. So why are more professors than ever banning students from bringing it into the classroom?&quot;

^ This is frustrating.

The argument here falls completely flat. And the whole Cuisinart meme thing is quite distasteful. 

Why pay all that money to spend your time surfing the Web and distracting others?

The classroom should be a sanctuary from this whole science fiction zombie scenario turned reality where everyone is staring into a screen all the time.

I don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I saw this headline I thought (and hoped) it was going to advocate disallowing laptops in class. And in a weird way it kind of is:</p>
<p>&#8220;We are surrounded by technology every day. So why are more professors than ever banning students from bringing it into the classroom?&#8221;</p>
<p>^ This is frustrating.</p>
<p>The argument here falls completely flat. And the whole Cuisinart meme thing is quite distasteful. </p>
<p>Why pay all that money to spend your time surfing the Web and distracting others?</p>
<p>The classroom should be a sanctuary from this whole science fiction zombie scenario turned reality where everyone is staring into a screen all the time.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sulayman Rumi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sulayman Rumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 05:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the professor. Every time I use my laptop or tablet in class, I find myself drifting off into distraction. Suddenly my GMail alert or my Facebook alert comes up in my menubar and I get completely distracted.

While there are some classes that require note-taking, a lot of them don&#039;t at all, and those using them or web browsing aimlessly tend to distract people around them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the professor. Every time I use my laptop or tablet in class, I find myself drifting off into distraction. Suddenly my GMail alert or my Facebook alert comes up in my menubar and I get completely distracted.</p>
<p>While there are some classes that require note-taking, a lot of them don&#8217;t at all, and those using them or web browsing aimlessly tend to distract people around them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Pucila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Pucila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 03:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading your article twice, I find it to be just as one sided as the professors argument.  I&#039;ll be honest, if I am in a class where the professor says we can&#039;t use laptops, I&#039;ll be the first to bitch and complain, but, do I end up paying more attention to the class?  I find that I do.

Technology may make it easier to take notes quickly, but, it also makes is harder to get the detail.  If you are taking notes on your laptop and the teacher starts drawing a diagram on the board, it&#039;s not possible to keep up with it in a note taking program.  You could try making the argument for a tablet, but I&#039;ve yet to find a good app that lets me take notes and draw in the same file.

The point also needs to be made that there is a serious gap in technology users.  The easy thing to do is blame the professors for &quot;not keeping up with the times&quot; except that really isn&#039;t fair.  Just as it isn&#039;t fair for people our age to be expected to know how to operate a traditional film camera.  Are there people who can do it? Certainly, but I think those people would be severely outnumbered by those who can&#039;t.

Taking a class on coding websites would be useless without a computer, plain and simple.  At the same time, students took social science classes 20 years ago and got the material then, so there is no reason why students shouldn&#039;t be able to today.  If used correctly, the technology could definitely be helpful, but is it necessary? No!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading your article twice, I find it to be just as one sided as the professors argument.  I&#8217;ll be honest, if I am in a class where the professor says we can&#8217;t use laptops, I&#8217;ll be the first to bitch and complain, but, do I end up paying more attention to the class?  I find that I do.</p>
<p>Technology may make it easier to take notes quickly, but, it also makes is harder to get the detail.  If you are taking notes on your laptop and the teacher starts drawing a diagram on the board, it&#8217;s not possible to keep up with it in a note taking program.  You could try making the argument for a tablet, but I&#8217;ve yet to find a good app that lets me take notes and draw in the same file.</p>
<p>The point also needs to be made that there is a serious gap in technology users.  The easy thing to do is blame the professors for &#8220;not keeping up with the times&#8221; except that really isn&#8217;t fair.  Just as it isn&#8217;t fair for people our age to be expected to know how to operate a traditional film camera.  Are there people who can do it? Certainly, but I think those people would be severely outnumbered by those who can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Taking a class on coding websites would be useless without a computer, plain and simple.  At the same time, students took social science classes 20 years ago and got the material then, so there is no reason why students shouldn&#8217;t be able to today.  If used correctly, the technology could definitely be helpful, but is it necessary? No!</p>
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		<title>By: Cullen McAndrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cullen McAndrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 00:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to throw in my two cents, I&#039;m a student who does not bring a laptop to class.  Honestly, I don&#039;t really care what the other students are doing, but when the girl next to/ in front of me starts browsing reddit, it gets difficult for me to sustain concentration on the lecture.  Her poor judgement hurts my performance, and that is bullshit.  I don&#039;t choose to be distracted, but it can be pretty hard not to be.   

I&#039;m not saying that I suddenly miss the rest of the lecture, but I have definitely missed an important point, etc.  And this is a common occurrence in some of my classes, and it just sucks, so I&#039;m all for banning them.

That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to throw in my two cents, I&#8217;m a student who does not bring a laptop to class.  Honestly, I don&#8217;t really care what the other students are doing, but when the girl next to/ in front of me starts browsing reddit, it gets difficult for me to sustain concentration on the lecture.  Her poor judgement hurts my performance, and that is bullshit.  I don&#8217;t choose to be distracted, but it can be pretty hard not to be.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that I suddenly miss the rest of the lecture, but I have definitely missed an important point, etc.  And this is a common occurrence in some of my classes, and it just sucks, so I&#8217;m all for banning them.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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