Featured, On Campus - by Lily Q on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 10:31 - 35 Comments - 328 views

The Demise of Free Printing At NYU

97974-main_FullFree printing labs are a thing of the past at NYU, where a single sheet now costs 10 cents at the formerly free labs.

But never fear, “ITS Print Service is an easy-to-use two-step process,” says the ITS website. All you have have to do now is enter your net ID, swipe your ID card at a printer after waiting in line behind several similarly frustrated students, print your document and watch as $2.50 is deducted from your account for an absurdly long reading you didn’t really want to do anyway! What fun.

Before you start burning this mofo down though, keep in mind that you get a $50 ITS credit per semester. (That’s enough to print 500 pages, for those of you who aren’t so into the math thing.) For classes that are writing and print-out reading intensive, the $50 credit most definitely won’t last through the semester. But most of you should be able to spread the credit over a few months, especially if you take advantage of a rather useful loop hole that charges the same ten cents whether the page is printed single or double sided.

Get all the details here and tell us what you think of this new policy in the comments. Obnoxious way to make budget cuts or noble protection of the environment?

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Jessica Roy
Sep 8, 2009 10:34

Here is my eloquent opinion on this subject: fuck NYU.

Surekha Ratnatunga
Sep 8, 2009 10:42

WHAT!?! Can TBNYU! add this to the top of their list? Can I bet that the next NYU location they are going to occupy is a computer lab?

Raleigh Dones
Sep 8, 2009 10:47

Protecting the environment my ass….these are documents we have to print out for classes!! long stupid ass readings professors make us bring to class. As if we’re not paying enough to be here now we have to pay for this?? BULLSHIT

Phillip Klugman
Sep 8, 2009 11:54

It’d be interesting if someone did a study to find out if this new printing program actually saves the university money. I for one can say that I never, ever used the free printing my first two years here, and if NYU gives everyone a $50 credit for printing, I am left wondering how many people are actually like me and most likely won’t use it.

Moreover, I’d like to know how many pages individual students actually printed in the past to make NYU set a 500 page maximum for each person.

Lily Q
Sep 8, 2009 11:57

@phil- the credit ITS-specific and doesn’t roll over semester to semester, so they definitely don’t lose money, even if you don’t use it. As for averages, previously you swiped into the lab but didn’t actually record what was printed, so a vaguely accurate student average isn’t very realistic. we’ll look into whether or not they have an estimate of total pages printed last year though.

Joe Coscarelli
Sep 8, 2009 12:06

Can’t wait for the WSN exposé on this subject in three days.

Phillip Klugman
Sep 8, 2009 12:15

@Lily “the credit ITS-specific and doesn’t roll over semester to semester, so they definitely don’t lose money, even if you don’t use it.”

This is exactly what I was I was trying to say but I guess it didn’t come across that way. What I meant was there are students like me who never use to labs and most likely never will, so NYU saves it’s $100 a year from my printing while they get to limit the people who use the free printing all the time to that $100 free limit. Again it all comes down to whether or not the people using all the free printing would print some exorbitant amount ($500?) of pages each semester/year.

If you think about it, it’s actually a really smart move on NYU’s part to save money, even if it is a pretty harsh move against the students at NYU who did all of the printing.

Eric Levin
Sep 8, 2009 12:22

Also, 3rd North is no longer open 24/7.

http://www.nyu.edu/its/labs/third/

Sam Zients
Sep 8, 2009 13:06

I went to the Third North lab today. The process actually isn’t as horrible as it sounds/I thought it would be when my reading didn’t print from “East Room 3″. It actually makes it easier because you don’t have to sit there with three people looking over your shoulder checking to see if your document prints because it doesn’t print until you swipe your NYU ID. The worst part is that it won’t print double-sided pages, which is mostly the reason I went to the printing labs in the first place.

Also, I doubt anyone with a normal (read: tons of fucking reading) course load will actually surpass 500 pages per semester, but I’ll let you know in December since I print everything out at the labs.

@Phillip Klugman – I was in the printing lab last spring when some dramatic writing kid printed 25 copies of his 40+ page screenplay, so… there you have it. Unfortunately nobody hit him in the face.

Henry Chan
Sep 8, 2009 13:10

Well, considering that there were students who’d print entire scripts from three different printers, this seems like a smart move on NYU’s part.

Besides, if anything, it’ll teach us (me) how to budget (not waste paper). Now I won’t print out that 40 page reading because it’s not like I’d read it anyway. No more printing out readings just to feel better about myself.

Charlie Eisenhood
Sep 8, 2009 14:09

@ Henry: I’m with you. This changes the incentives so that people will run off copies instead of printing 25 copies of stuff.

And as people have already mentioned, this will only affect a small number of students who abuse the printing privileges.

Josh Becker
Sep 8, 2009 15:14

I work in an office. So do many of you, I believe! It’s a great place to print for free, especially at the end of the day when your bosses really don’t give a shit.

Keyana Stevens
Sep 8, 2009 15:16

I’m more upset about Third North not being open 24/7 than I am about the new printing policy. Now what am I supposed to do when I finish a paper at 3 am and my printer runs out of ink?

Annie Escobar
Sep 8, 2009 15:23

Can the $50 worth of credit go toward printing in Bobst? just hopeful thinking…

Jessica Roy
Sep 8, 2009 15:57

@Josh That’s where I do all my printing. I didn’t even know about the ITS credit until this post.

Brianne S
Sep 8, 2009 16:37

I’m not positive, and I’m also in Paris, but I heard that NYU has made cutbacks in a couple other places in order to make all internships (even those outside of NYU) paid instead of for credit, and that by limiting the free printing and changing printing center hours, they will have the funds to pay students for this new policy. I’m assuming it’s not in effect yet if NYULocal hasn’t made a report on it. Heard this from an RA, he said it “looking that way” but unsure of when it would actually be put into place.

Lily Q
Sep 8, 2009 16:42

@Brianne- you may be thinking of last year’s Steinhardt senior class gift to a fund that would offer certain NYU students a stipend or interning. We’ve not heard anything about the University potentially paying students for off-campus internships and, sadly, that seems incredibly unlikely. I mean, I’d be happy if they just stopped charging more than 1,100 a credit for me to work for free for someone else.

Kenneth Hsu
Sep 8, 2009 19:40

This recession has officially hit close to home.

Marie Bardi
Sep 8, 2009 20:10

This literally ruined my first day of class.

Paige P
Sep 8, 2009 20:22

I agree with this… You’ll think twice about printing that 40 page pdf your supposed to read for class if it costs you $4.00 … instead trying reading it on your laptop and bringing your laptop to class… and if you end up spending $50 a semester on printing perhaps its time to buy a printer…since some sell for real cheap and I’ve had mine since I was a Sophomore in H.S. (I’m not a junior in college)…and if you’re really so afraid of running out of money perhaps you should not get that extra cup of starbucks Coffee that you always gets when your already ten minutes late for class…

Chris Kennedy
Sep 8, 2009 20:40

As a politics major, all of my upper level courses have relied extensively on online material that needs to be printed. Using my laptop to read the articles is just not an option, as any good student who actively reads the material should know.

Anyways, I’ve always been a major customer of the Steinhardt and Third North Free printing labs and it has been clear since I first started using them that major waste was going on. However, I don’t think limiting students (like me) to $50 per semester of free printing is fair when my courses require me to print out more than 500 pages of material.

There are better ways to avoid the waste going on at the free printing labs.

- Forcing people to print double-sided unless a supervisor provides an override key
- Using this same swipe-system would work well to force people to authorize the print-job at only one printer, and not every single one in the room

There were a lot of people who were extremely wasteful at the printing labs. There were also a lot of people there who spent the extra time to make sure they weren’t being wasteful. NYU is punishing everyone when they should (and could have) just punished the former group.

Chris Kennedy
Sep 8, 2009 20:51

I’d also like to add that I realize most universities probably don’t provide free printing for their students like NYU has for its students. I’m certainly grateful that NYU provides a service I think most universities should, but I don’t think limiting each student to only $50 dollars per semester is the correct way to allocate those generously provided resources (that we pay 52,000/year for…).

Many students don’t use the free printing labs, or won’t ever use their entire $50 dollars worth. Nor does it actually cost NYU 10 cents per page to allow us to print.

Dylan Riley
Sep 9, 2009 9:22

I’d also like to add that they have no alternative to swiping the card. There is no manual way to input your ID. The magnet on my card is damaged and the person in IT said all but “Go Fuck Yourself” to me; guess we can’t blame them for lacking people skills or any sort of social aptitude for that matter.

Annoyed Student
Sep 9, 2009 11:37

Another cutback: I tried making a student health center sick appointment today, and when the nurse told me there were none available, she suggested walk-in appointments. Walk-in appointments now have a charge of “somewhere between $5 and $10.”

I could be wrong but I don’t remember that charge last year.

Jay Geary
Sep 9, 2009 17:33

Goddammit, I tried to print at 3rd North this summer and was assured that it would be back to free and 24 hours come fall semester.

Bullshit, I say.

Mary M
Sep 10, 2009 0:14

Certain majors require more printing than others. Yeah, it’s a pain in the ass when the dramatic writer in front of you has a sixty page script to print, but it’s an even larger pain in the ass when your professor asks you to reprint all sixty pages of your barely-edited script each week.

As a silver lining, maybe professors will tone down requirements for superfluous printing.

Also, I know that it’s fairly common (at least with the universities I’m familiar with) to provide free printing for students.

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Also, sorry, but it’s BS to charge us for printing. At the very least, make the printing where NYU supplies the printers/ink, but students supply paper. Palladium is doing that (although of course, there is no ink in the printer)…

sam
Sep 15, 2009 23:05

I simply enjoy that at New School we’ve always gotten $150 a semester and ya’ll only get $50! and it is helping the environment if people have to think about how much they use and have to be discretionary about it.

I’m still laughing that we have $100 more than you.

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