Look folks, I am not a member, never was, of the WUO, but the Weather Underground never hurt anyone (other than two of their own killed by a bomb they were testing), so how the hell are they public enemy terrorists #1? Fox News and Co. love pumping out divisiveness. Considering we the US military have annihilated WELL MORE than 100,000 innocent iraqi civilians since unjustly occupying that country, does that make the U.S. military terrorists? Oh wait, this war is in the name of finding … uhmm… terrrorists who committed 9/11…ughm not true.
…errr…WMDs…changing regimes…
uhhgggg oil manipulation.

58,209 is the answer. What is the question? Number of US servicemen and women who were killed in the Vietnam War. Repeat that. 58,209. I don’t blame Ayers and others for being pissed off about a situation that would wipe out the entire NYU community (do the math). I wasn’t born yet, but I wouldn’t like it either if my country was steadfast on an unjust and immoral war like vietnam or iraq.

4,179. That’s U.S. servicemen that have given their lives in the “War on Terror.”

How many innocent civilians have been killed in both wars? No one knows because, as dumb trusting citizens, us yanks have been conditioned to not care about the civilians living in the countries we occupy. look at nyu. no one even talks about the war anymore! Purl Gurl your note is proof positive that the folks that keep the current and crooked two party system intact (there’s little BOTTOM LINE–ie healthcare/military industrial complex–difference between both parties) is the same system that divides us all, having us fawning over these bogus debates, democrats vs. republicans during election season, then entertained by brittany and dancing with stars and gossip girl in between. if we came together, we could make our own change, and the powers at be don’t want that to happen.

Both wars were unjust and did not call for military action, and both parties signed off on both wars. both wars have ended so many lives, yet you and other foxnewsparrotingterroristbots bash some hippie who bombed the capitol because he and other normally peace loving people wanted to tell washington to hit the brakes on their unjust doctrine that was vietnam? really? he’s unpatriotic? he was extreme, for sure, but ayers is not anti american.

You equated the WUO to 9/11. That’s just ridiculous. One group wanted to end the vietnam war and 9/11 …well we have yet to truthfully investigate that day so no one knows who was financing it and pulling the strings there.

look at the u.s.today. look what GW and DC have gotten away with and no one has stopped them. dems, kucinich, etc etc etc etc. bush’s puppet, nancy pelosi. the neo cons have, literally, gotten away with murder and greed on the grandest scale.

vietnam was terrible, absolutely terrible. it was a senseless, useless war in a jungle against a faceless enemy that started built on LIES. sound familiar? google the gulf of tonkin incident, now declassified. Google Operation Northwoods from years ago, and see how evil your government can be if it is allowed. Throw in “Able Danger” for a more recent sign of how the US govt is beyond shady. The fact that ayers and others were pissed and formed a group to show the crooked feds who care little about sons and daughters being killed isn’t the problem, they shouldn’t have bombed buildings. but at the end of the day….they didn’t hurt anyone outside of their own.

Everyone has been so pumped full of the Bush Administration’s propaganda machine of muslim/islam bashing that once it was revealed an anti war hippie had dinner with a presidential candidate 18 years ago (or did city council work, whatever), it becomes sean hannity (yawn) fodder. there’s the story. next. Look both parties suck, wake up to the fact that the congress has failed the people just as mainstream media has, and until our corporate owned leaders are held accountable for their actions, by some international organization…or we the people…nothing will get better. we’ve sacrificed our liberties in the name of terror (FISA, Patriot Act), and your note reeks of fear. i’m not scared of foreign, faceless terrorists, i’m more scared of what mccain/palin have up their sleeves – a la dick cheney – if they got their hands on the military, what the federal reserve has planned, etc. even obama is talking tough on iran and russia. ugh. please. U.S. foreign policy needs a hip check, please putin, apply it.

sarah palin is a non news item, she is no one. actually, she does rank as the most unfit VP candidate ever. there’s the news from the hockey rink in Wazzzeeella Alassska! seriously. but could you imagine if the novice gov from wassila gets her hands on the nuclear codes, having stated that the US is in Iraq “because of God’s will”??? that is scary. God God God. Fear Fear Fear. Terrorist Terrorist Terrorist. Ugh, neo con fear has trickled down the evangilist stream. Aren’t Church and State Separate?

and let me get this straight, purl gurl…john mccain, who owns 12 homes, and is part of the GOP, is broke and can’t afford bloggers? please.

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“After the Greenwich Village incident, the group was now well underground, and began to refer to themselves as the Weather Underground Organization. At this juncture, WUO shrank considerably, becoming even fewer than they had been when first formed. The group was devastated by the loss of their friends, and in late April, 1970, members of the Weathermen met in California to discuss what had happened in New York and the future of the organization. The group decided to reevaluate their strategy, particularly in regard to their initial belief in the acceptability of human casualties, rejecting such tactics as kidnapping and assassinations.

They wanted to convince the American public that the United States was truly responsible for the calamity in Vietnam.[6] The group began striking at night, bombing empty offices, with warnings always issued in advance to ensure a safe evacuation. According to David Gilbert, “[their] goal was to not hurt any people, and a lot of work went into that. But we wanted to pick targets that showed to the public who was responsible for what was really going on.”[6] After the Greenwich Village explosion, no one was killed by WUO bombs.[22]

“We were very careful from the moment of the townhouse on to be sure we weren’t going to hurt anybody, and we never did hurt anybody. Whenever we put a bomb in a public space, we had figured out all kinds of ways to put checks and balances on the thing and also to get people away from it, and we were remarkably successful.
—Bill Ayers

I think an official reprimand from the House carries more weight than you’re implying. None of the people involved in the Business Plot were formally charged either, and that was a conspiracy to overthrow the government.

Obama supporters tend to just mention McCains involvement as one of “the five” and act as if you are being naïve if you believe the Ethics Committee ruling. McCain even returned all the money he received from Keating for trips and admitted his actions and relationship gave the impression of wrongdoing, which he apologized for and called “the worst mistake of his life.”

I don’t see how there is any “gotcha” evidence against McCain in the matter, or am I missing something?

Discussing Obama’s friendship with terrorist Ayers is fair game. Discussing Palin’s “Troopergate” affair is fair game. Discussing Obama’s decades long close association with “God damn America” Wright is fair game. Discussing Todd Palin’s past participation in this Alaska “secession” organization is fair game.

Those topics and many other topics are fair game while those discussing relate facts and truths. These issues point to a person’s character and judgement. Those issues are only fair game when discussed with maturity and common sense. Most, not all, but most of what I read being written by Obama staffers at blogs, most of this is simply not true. I also read “stretching of the truth” by McCain supporters, but much less in number and much less in wild claims.

Part of this disparity in numbers between Obama and McCain blog commentaries is Obama can afford to pay people to work blogs in massive numbers. McCain cannot afford to have the same done.

A point which is critically important is all these “bad” people associated with Palin or McCain, none of those people blew up buildings nor perpetrated violent terrorist acts upon our country. Yes, there is Troopergate and there is Keating, there are other incidents of not good favor, but none of those incidents involve widespread terrorist attacks on our country, much like the 9-11 horror. Ayers and his old friends are terrorists, this is beyond debate.

Very few, most likely no readers here would associate with Ayers. This would be like associating with Islamic terrorists. This is distasteful, this is inappropriate, this is selling out your dignity at a cheap price. Obama using Ayers to launch his political career, Obama maintaining friendship with Ayers, Obama simply being in the company of Ayers, is a slap across the face of our country and is for Obama to sell his dignity to further his political career. This does call into question Obama’s character and his judgement.

Obama associating with Ayers is like one of us playing golf with O.J. Simpson.

These issues are fair political game but must be addressed with fairness and truth. We cannot afford to play deceitful games; our country’s future is at stake.

Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation